This isn't a review of Gladiator II -- I don't think I am writing one since somebody more enthusiastic about the property was assigned it at Pajiba. I could write a proper review of it here if I felt like it but take all of this blathering as proof that no, I do not feel like it. There's a lot of fun silliness to the movie to enjoy -- for one Denzel Washington is, as you've likely heard by now, having the time of his life. Every second he's on-screen is a blast. And the battle scene where they fill the Colosseum up with water, ships, and SHARKS -- that shit is bananas. Probably worth the price of admission alone.
But I left the movie in the most foul of moods despite that excessive goofiness (and Paul Mescal's thighs) because in Joseph Quinn's Emperor Geta and especially in Fred Hechinger's Emperor Caracalla the film trades in a nasty retrograde throwback to the sorts of vile queer villains we haven't seen since the simpering faggot prince in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. You can't even call Geta and Caracalla queer-coded since they've got a harem of made-up lady-boys in waiting. The boys are big ol' sissies. Sneering sissy stereotypes.
They're awful, pasty, deceitful, cruel, sickly, and most of all weak. Caracalla is going mad from syphilis and anoints his monkey to be his number one advisor. Brothers, they turn on each other in a split second. They are jokes meant to be laughed at, and we're meant to celebrate their downfalls brought on by their lascivious queerness. It's crowds cheering on Mel Gibson killing the perfumed fag all over again.
I suppose that, in the interest of widening the queer window, Denzel Washington's Macrinus is meant to be bisexual since in the final film he has a throwaway line about being with men. But it could be read in a couple of ways -- he could be saying women are a lot of bother, and not that he's actually been with any men. And of course Denzel made headlines this week when he said he'd had a kiss with a male actor that got cut out of the film -- this seemed to me to be an early strike out because they knew they were going to get headlines on this subject. (I personally told the PR people I was offended by the movie's throwback queer representation, and I spoke to several other critics who felt the same way.)
But Macrinus, as much fun as Denzel is having playing him, is still a villain. And his comeuppance is the film's biggest cheer moment of all. But since he's a much more rounded-out character if it had been just him as the queer villain I would've been fine with it. I don't hate a queer villain when done right!
Honestly -- and this bit is probably crucial in my read of the movie -- I also just don't think Ridley Scott has earned the benefit of the doubt in his career on this subject. What has he done for us? Michael Fassbender making out with his clone-twin in Covenant? My point exactly. More of the same. Ryan Phillippe in soaking wet tighty-whities in White Squall? Okay, well I will give him that one.
In all seriousness though the problem is that all of Gladiator II's main villains are the queer people. And all of the film's heroes are boring straights, pining for their ladies. At first there are a bit of homoerotic Midnight Express vibes happening between Paul Mescal's imprisoned character and the doctor who tends his wounds and I thought okay, maybe they'll queer him up too. But their conversations inevitably devolve into talk of their lady loves, almost to the point where it feels like the script having its own moment of gay panic -- there doesn't seem much reason for the conversation except to define them as two lady-loving bros just shooting the shit! No homo!
I know the argument exists that there's "historical accuracy" to some of these characterizations. (As if this movie feels much fealty to history!) That doesn't take into mind the fact that history has been written by the homophobes for centuries. We have been cast as the villains for as long as storytelling has existed. The stray cards that will knock the whole hetero family unit down for good, et cetera.
And given what just happened in this country election-wise, I do feel it's especially important right now to point this shit out. But I'll be curious to hear what y'all think when you see the movie -- if you're offended or if you think I'd read too much into it. So come back and comment down below once you have.
For the record (name and shame) the movies were in order Gladiator II, the slasher film Director’s Cut, Heretic obviously, and of course Anora (which I’ve made my discomfort re: its use of the f slur known already)
— Jason Adams (@JAMNPP) November 8, 2024
17 comments:
I have no desire to see Gladiator 2. I am interested in seeing Wicked part one. I haven’t been to a movie theater since 2011.
I wasn't going to see this anyway. Annoying, especially given that actor(s?) involved benefit from the smirky 'don't ask, don't tell' policy Hollywood still sticks to.
I think this is a totally valid criticism and it's crazy seeing these depictions of queer and queer-coded villains in modern times.
Thanks for this post, Jason. I caught a glimpse of this stereotyping in just a few shots of the trailer and it put me off completely. Love your work. 😀
Did you see the new short by Jim Cummings? I found the last few minutes bothersome.
I don't mind any of these things if the character is also a person. Villains come in all shapes and sizes. The problems start when all you see is the sterotype and nothing else. 2-Dimensional villains are shit.
The real Emperor Caracalla was a soldier more at home in garrisons than in Rome. By all means write him gay, what the Hell, but a screaming sissy is ridiculous.
I was similarly put off when in interviews, Washington described his character as being into "anything"; "Women, men, animals..."
What a bunch of Karen's! If you don't care about this movie, quit whining, go watch some porn and move on. I loved the first movie and can't wait to see this one.
The plural of Karen is Karens.
100% agree - in addition to the campy gay brothers Joseph Quinn as Geta and Fred Hechinger as Caracalla, Gladiator 2 resorts to the Hollywood Trope - to make villains even more evil - they are revealed to be f@gs. The decadence of Roman is further reveals via the heavily made-up Tim McInnerny as Senator Thorax and Matt Lucas as the Master of Ceremonies (he might as well have been performing on RuPaul Drag Race).
Yes thank you Frank I meant to include those two in here too and forgot. It's really an overwhelming presentation of queerness as being pathetic from every angle. It's pretty shitty!
Tbf if Geta's presentation was meant to be what everything loudly suggests it was, I must have been unable to read that adequately as I found it pretty fabulous, strawberry blond (hey, villainous gingers, they really did not not stoop to let one musty trope go to waste) heroin chic with extra ounces of golden flitter and all. But then, I acutely felt represented by all those 1.275 female speaking roles in a casting list long enough to wind around some triumphal arch that still managed to be multiply subservient, whiny, conniving, bored, backstabbing, lactating, blathering fools like wouldn't you know it from the fucking-est history books. So, of course, I must have gotten sidetracked by the glitter... Still, I actually had some fun with the main character lines (not 100% sure Denzel wasn't had by the script) and the note it ended on.
(I was similarly put off when in interviews, Washington described his character as being into "anything"; "Women, men, animals...") what interview was that?
Hello let's go lynch Scott, shall we??
You are just another self hating fag.so booooooooring!!!
Idiots can't spell to save the imbecile lives!!
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