tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post4170075173199802811..comments2024-03-28T22:45:55.043-04:00Comments on my new plaid pants: Call Me By Your What Now?Jason Adamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18254334131909339157noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-76824687197680004632018-02-02T18:00:14.444-05:002018-02-02T18:00:14.444-05:00Either Luca or Andre (I haven't been able to r...Either Luca or Andre (I haven't been able to read the book yet) knows his Brideshead Revisited. The important quote from BH:<br /><br />"But I was in search of love in those days, and I went full of curiosity and the faint, unrecognized apprehension that here, at last, I should find the low door in the wall which others, I know, had found before me, which opened on an enclosed and enchanted garden, which was somewhere, not overlooked by any window, in the heart of that grey city."<br /><br />Charles Ryder voices this thought before he dives in, and on Sebastian - if you interpret Charles as more the man-on-the-make than the innocent naïf.<br /><br />In CMBYN, people usually entered and left the Perlman villa through the wide automobile gateway. But when Elio and Oliver leave for the day to go to the Pavia war monument - and so much more, they leave by a separate small door in the villa walls.<br /><br />Later, after Oliver has given Elio the note to meet him at midnight, Oliver leaves the villa for the day by this small door, passing Marzia who is going in for the afternoon activities.<br /><br />I think that these two scenes are the only times that this door is used, although I was enjoying the movie so much that I'm sure that I missed many details.<br /><br />DetroitFreerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-15020197567716851792018-01-28T18:58:01.449-05:002018-01-28T18:58:01.449-05:00Just wanted to pop in here and say thanks to every...Just wanted to pop in here and say thanks to everybody for all of the amazing comments -- it's been such a pleasure reading your thoughts :)Jason Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254334131909339157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-41849174098360367282018-01-26T19:26:14.627-05:002018-01-26T19:26:14.627-05:00Ah, but Austin C, Oliver promised to give Elio the...Ah, but Austin C, Oliver promised to give Elio the shirt, which Elio later took. Isn't it possible that he's wearing the shirt in the end? mwgmwg1208https://www.blogger.com/profile/13966469981718878064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-35198545277574624932018-01-23T16:01:08.283-05:002018-01-23T16:01:08.283-05:00Minor little thing I noticed and loved. When Elio ...Minor little thing I noticed and loved. When Elio mocked the oversized "fancy" shirt that "Sonny and Cher" gifted him as an early rebellion against his feelings only to later wear an equally flamboyant shirt in the closing of the film. He had clearly talked about his feelings and sexuality with his parents and was starting to come in to it and realize a lot can be said through wardrobe. I thought that subtle attention to detail throughout the entire film in regards to costume design was incredible. Thanks for all that you do Jason!Austin Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-77004313894523032662018-01-23T08:20:34.234-05:002018-01-23T08:20:34.234-05:00I delete anyone using the word "pedophilia&qu...I delete anyone using the word "pedophilia" or anything insinuating that garbage, because I am personally fucking offended by it, equating a consensual relationship between two men to something perverse - that shit went out of style when we stopped electrocuting the gay out of ourselves and I won't have it here. I'm not shilling for anything save a respectful conversation. Think about your words. <br /><br />(But this is my site and I'll delete whatever the hell I want to, also. FYI)Jason Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254334131909339157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-87112756230477217802018-01-23T02:07:11.999-05:002018-01-23T02:07:11.999-05:00Why do you keep deleting comments from readers who...Why do you keep deleting comments from readers who like your blog but who are critical of this film? Who are you shilling for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-22772154040878947542018-01-22T09:46:05.633-05:002018-01-22T09:46:05.633-05:00Yet more beautiful writing from you on this beauti...Yet more beautiful writing from you on this beautiful film - such a gift to the world!<br /><br />I've been working on a review of CMBYN ever since I saw it a second time a couple of weeks ago. When I read the book I struggled with the this name-calling thing, finding it just some pretentious thing pretentious people would do. But in the movie it became clear to me - this is the greatest gift Oliver can give Elio: an expression of self-love.<br /><br />We know Oliver has issues with being open about his desire for men, and that his family wouldn't be supportive. By calling his loved one by his own name, both men, in expressing a love for someone else, are expressing love for themselves... and isn't that such a beautiful thing? Especially for a young man coming to terms with his sexuality. It's another way in which this world is somewhat utopian, of a piece with the perpetually gorgeous summer weather and Elio's unconditionally supportive parents. But it's teaching Elio to love himself for who he is, and the more I think about it, the more beautiful I find it - just like the film itself.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480863610135936930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-25845964213290402932018-01-20T19:03:34.109-05:002018-01-20T19:03:34.109-05:00Hello! I've been spying on your blog for some ...<br />Hello! I've been spying on your blog for some time, and I have to congratulate you for always excellent content! I came to stop here when I was looking for models and I found this preciousness that I can not go without everyday!<br />ah! about CMBYN, I got the book today, and I plan to devour it by the end of next week so I can watch this movie that has already become iconic to me!<br />thank you for making my days (and certainly that of many other people) more interesting and enlightened! good luck and prosperity!H. Damascenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08220348023689692987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-5870968040027838972018-01-20T12:05:10.270-05:002018-01-20T12:05:10.270-05:00I got the impression that Oliver had male lovers p...I got the impression that Oliver had male lovers previously. Otherwise, I'm not sure his statement that "we've been good" makes much sense - how could he know what "being bad" was? His forwardness with Elio suggested, to me, some experience.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281727200554480875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-85319984520675508642018-01-20T07:10:09.830-05:002018-01-20T07:10:09.830-05:00May I write a bit about the film Call Me by Your N...May I write a bit about the film Call Me by Your Name? I have been overwhelmed by this film, not only the performances, direction and art direction that I mentioned in a previous writing but about my actual “take,” to use your word, on this amazing piece of cinema.<br /><br />First and foremost, the film is not a love story. Quite simply, it is a tale of mutual obsession. Never once in the film does the phrase “I love you” occur; this is true in the novel as well. Oliver has a handle on this obsession (“I know myself!”), but Elio, being a newbie, so to speak, does not, hence Elio’s great sadness at the end when they part. <br /><br />The themes of Greco-Roman antiquity constantly run through this film as they do in the novel. Director Luca Guadagnino and writer James Ivory changed Prof. Perlman’s teaching subject from Prof. of Philosophy to Prof. of Antiquities, which is why there are Greco-Roman works of art in the opening credits, a raising of an ancient statue from the sea (“Venus Rising”), and a slide show of sensual statuary art (which moves Oliver to distraction); none of this occurs in the novel. Moreover, the basic story line parallels the Greek myth of the God Zeus’ abduction of the beautiful Greek youth Ganymeade to be cupbearer to the Gods (and Zeus gets some nookie on the side). Guadagnino and Ivory change the location of Oliver and Elio’s vacation from a few days in the city of Rome capped by a grand evening with the city’s literati (in the novel) to a mountainside idyll for two (read Mount Olympus).<br /><br /><br />I think the one feature that attracts me most to this film is Elio’s relationship with his parents, which is every gay boy’s dream fantasy. The parents are perfect, always caring, loving and supportive of their precocious son, capped by the moving father-son scene on Elio’s return home and the more subtle relationship with his mother, who knows what’s going on, says nothing about it, but supports her son as only a mother could, by her nurturing behavior. Note the brief moment when Elio’s mother notices he’s wearing the Star of David, pats his chest gently but makes no verbal reference to it.<br /><br />Great acts of intimacy constantly occur in the film: Oliver lighting Elio’s cigarette, cupping his hands to stave off the breeze; the ubiquitous scene with the peach; Elio covering his head with Oliver’s swimsuit to breathe in his scent; and the ultimate intimacy, “Call me by your name and I’ll call you by mine.” They are just a few of the many other intimate moments. By comparison, the actual sex scene is moderate in its approach as filmed by the director.<br /><br />Elio and Oliver’s growing relationship is punctuated by flirting, game playing, and cat-and-mouse tactics, all beautifully depicted here. Those who say the film is too long and nothing happens do not understand what they are seeing. This is the result of the collaborative working relationship between director Guadagnino and the exquisite chemistry binding Armie Hammer and Timothee Chalamet. This is what a director does.<br /><br /><br /><br />Finally, all the female characters are beautifully drawn individuals: Elio’s caring mother, the housekeeper Mafalda, who treats Elio as a surrogate son, the sex starved, man-eating Chiara whose fate it is to arrive at the bus station too late to say good bye to Oliver and finally, the delicate lovelorn Marzia, who is abandoned by Elio (as Ariadne was abandoned by Theseus), yet rises to the occasion in a beautifully written scene of forgiveness and her offer of lifetime friendship.<br /><br /><br />Calfcakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-84785258196515496232018-01-19T20:43:48.157-05:002018-01-19T20:43:48.157-05:00Thank you. This was a very thoughtful interpretati...Thank you. This was a very thoughtful interpretation. No quibbles at all. It doesn’t matter what Aciman says about it, since the author has a different perspective or interest from the reader. One other bit that I noticed about the echoing of their names: when they call out each other’s names as they’re swimming with Elio’s father at the lake of the statue, and you can’t see who’s saying what because it’s distant and dark; they could be saying their own names. The movie is filled to the brim with these artful echoes and foreshadowings. Guadagnino is amazing: such control of his art. <br /><br />Another thing I liked about this piece was the fact that you placed these characters in context. Yes, they’re scholars in love with culture. I can’t tell you how much I hate the criticism that the movie is “pretentious.” It’s about a very specific milieu, cultured Ivy/European intellectuals, just as “Brokeback Mountain” was about two poor sheep herders.<br /><br />P.S. I’ve been listening to Armie’s audiobook as I walk the city. It’s incredibly erotic to hear him say things like “I wanted to come in his swimsuit.” His performance in the film keeps growing in my mind, too. There’s something very moving about the melancholy that appears in the cracks of his all-American facade.Owen Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-72045344384410898302018-01-19T19:40:12.764-05:002018-01-19T19:40:12.764-05:00ugh shut the fuck upugh shut the fuck upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-29201303074948990842018-01-19T16:59:43.524-05:002018-01-19T16:59:43.524-05:00Love the depth you go into with this film! To the ...Love the depth you go into with this film! To the point you're making about Elio introducing himself to Oliver at the beginning and almost being some form of foreshadowing is very cool, and probably intentional indeed. I also noticed upon further viewing how he then asks if he should "Take your things up to your room" then turns to his mom and says "my room" again reinforcing this image of them being one in the same. Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-19463091601983900572018-01-19T16:18:44.216-05:002018-01-19T16:18:44.216-05:00I really think it's time you just create a sep...I really think it's time you just create a separate CMBYN blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-24136451511609276102018-01-19T16:16:40.481-05:002018-01-19T16:16:40.481-05:00To me (a cis pan woman) both the “call me by your ...To me (a cis pan woman) both the “call me by your name” and the “parce que c’etait lui, parce c’etait moi”, resonate the same sentiment as well, however to me the key is in the naming. Is there anything more intimate than becoming one with someone else? By giving them your name you become them and they become you. To me it always meant something like this. I always felt the theme of homecoming and endlessness; like the alternate universe sequence in the last part in the book, and the “zwischen immer in nie” (which, sadly, also exists only in the novel) bring this moment home and give it meaning. They exist and are who they are because of each other and what they mean to one another, even if it was in just one summer. Characters change by staying the same and stay the same by changing. What I, clumsily, mean to say is; by being who they are as individuals and together they, in a sense, become the other, as well as are with the other. “Call me by your name” to me is an ultimate form of intimacy. <br />And this is what makes the story of Elio and Iverbso important; the deep and at times explicit intimacy, as well as the lack of any form of antagonist (except maybe time itself).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-84232729266174166982018-01-19T16:15:19.294-05:002018-01-19T16:15:19.294-05:00And now I'm crying all over again...And now I'm crying all over again...Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04134158132102445482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13372093.post-11167727254737756892018-01-19T15:59:52.258-05:002018-01-19T15:59:52.258-05:00Jason, this is great, you give really fantastic an...Jason, this is great, you give really fantastic analysis. When Elio & Oliver re-invoked their CMBYN connection that one final time over the phone I was swooning, with a big lump in my throat.Astroboymnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11523070626484236039noreply@blogger.com